Absolutely no repercussions, to the King even existing, let alone the Clown taking the throne and the King dying. It saddens me that my sister can't do the same. Once again sweeping this fact under the rug. He didn't even try to run. General Kang asks whether he should bring his men to the capital or prepare to fight at the border. Thus, the story's flow was smooth and it concentrated more on the main story of the clown. Yes @kiara. And even I would be interested, and was interested, in seeing what this story looks like. However, I find myself not caring so much. That means, that everybody else in the entire canon palace world of this show, thinks, the Clown, is a KING they already know. Its based on Ha Suns name, which means summer fairy, and Eunuch Jo says it perfectly suits him because hes like the summer sun that shines equally over everyone. He had no backstory. Then they reunited in death and walked off into the sunset. She asks him to absolve her of her title first, so that instead of becoming the queen dowager and staying in the palace, she can go away and wait for him to join her. They wanted, I think, to tell the story of someone from a lower class who is better at serving the people of a nation than those who have been corrupted in power; they wanted to tell the story of what it would be like to put someone like a Clown on the throne, and what it would be like for a Clown to fall in love with a Queen. SINOPSIS The Crowned Clown : Joseon dalam keadaan kacau karena pemberontakan dan perebutan kekuasaan di sekitar Raja Lee Hun yang diperankan oleh Yeo Jin-Goo. Also, MLSHR had one of the BEST instrumental collections of Sageuk-land. Yes, I did get a little teary at the final goodbye; The reason why this never happened in Joseon is because of the way they keep tap on the king's every movement. Anyway since i have heard of this king and his door keeper story since childhood the concept wasn't that new to me. But Ha Sun stabs him in the belly, declaring that the price for killing Minister Lee is his death. 2023 TheReviewGeek. To kill off Moo Young and leave Ha Seon with literally no one but So Woon? Eunuch Jo gives Ha Sun a drawing that he made of him, remembering how Ha Sun once drew him a picture to cheer him up. Ha Sun watches, horrified, as Minister Lee grabs a sword from a guard and runs Prince Jin-pyung through, taking several sword wounds in the back himself. I bitched about this on my fan wall, but I'm so pissed I'll repeat myself. Two years pass, then HS shows up talking about how much time had passed when he woke up. In the dark of night, Minister Shin leads the rebel soldiers to the palace gates and orders them to kill the tyrant king. The Clown manages to fluke his way out of the accusations (without anyone on his side dying), and then the Villains lead a rebellion that is entirely unsuccessful and was executed without intelligence so that the Good Guys (lol) can win very easily and eliminate all threats, in the space of about 20 minutes, as if the last fifteen episodes of well, drama, mean absolutely nothing. He says that if she refuses, hell hang Minister Lees body at the gates for the people to see, and then theyll know that she caused this rebellion without justification. My thoughts are the queen died of a broken heart when she learned the king was dead. Loved loved loved this drama till the ending But of course everyone can have its own opinion. The problem is, is that the show did not actually want to tell the story of the King AND the Clown. It was pretty good Korean Soap Opera but so much tragedy and I did want Haskan to have survived for his happy ending but not to be. The writers could have done better making recovery time shorter, say 3-6 months. They didn't really expose that at the beginning. So what if youre a prince. I dont feel that it did as good of a job as it could have in explaining why Minister Lee killed Prince Yul for Yi Heon, or framing his poisoning of Yi Heon as something he was doing for the country, even though it personally hurt him to do it. It might have all been clear to Koreans or anyone else who knows the province names, but it seems to me like they were jerking us around by having the general from near the northern border turn around and then having another general turn up like magic. She orders Ha Sun to confess to colluding with Aisin Gurun and disrespecting Ming, their ally. But if its boring, nvm. I don't know what came over me that I felt so compelled to embark on JUMONG and KINGDOM OF THE WINDS around the start of the year. So what happens, when you kill him, and, moral implications aside, there are no consequences to this, is that your plot doesnt frakking make sense. There's no telling how much faulty impressions you'd get if your 1st sageuk was MLSHR or Hwarang or Moon embracing the Sun, because then you'll have it on high pedestal, comparing the other Sageuks to your 1st one for some time for all the wrong reasons. It did its intended purpose. He had no backstory. But im note sure what was recorded of the kings in those days, like to what extent (like records on poop lol that was hilarious ). A) Ha Seon gives up the throne. It wasnt explicitly said, but I believe that once he had gotten revenge on Minister Shin and the queen dowager, he realized that hed been using the throne for his own personal reasons and thats why he abdicated to someone who could truly put the country first. ;-). It made it interesting. But then they killed Yi Heon off, and Ha Sun was just too inconsequential for me. 1/4 Its just as J Star said: Unanswered questions. Inconsistencies are there but being able to create a good show that MOST people clearly enjoyed was thanks to the people behind it. My take on the ending is that they reunited in death. Ha Sun sends a letter to the queen dowager asking her to halt her men for one day so he can pay proper respects to Minister Lee. It showed the King, as a character. And the drama did well as well. The queen dowager thinks a moment, then gives him permission to invade the palace and remove the clown from the throne. Or change the writer. Nevertheless, it takes me a while to get my thoughts in order, so I don't comment in a timely fashion. Did he wish on one of his hazelnuts?! It is an 8/10 for me. It really speaks out my mind almost perfectly why I did not really enjoy watching this drama, especially after Yi Heon's death. Showing Haksan in such slow-motion looked a bit off to me. He reminds her that he made her promise never to harm herself, and says that hes returning the knife only so she can protect herself, but she says that she intends to keep her word. She turns and theres Ha Sun, alive. I cannot watch two sageuks at the same time without getting the details bollixed up, even if they're set in different time periods. (Cases in point: TEMPERATURE OF LOVE and BECAUSE THIS LIFE IS OUR FIRST. For me the biggest issue wasnt necessarily killing the king off in and of itself (although I do agree that things could have been so much more interesting with more interaction between him and Ha Seon). In the summer of 1997, Diana did take her. Which means they both died. I think they could show us the Lord "I don't remember his name" rebellion because it was not very clear and still had a big place in the story of this character. The story takes place in Joseon period, when power struggles surrounding the throne had reached extreme levels. The two could have wandered the country checking that new reforms were taking place. No no. I suspect that having to contend with another court full of braying ministers was a bit too daunting. And youre probably going to reply to this with something along the lines of saying even THIS comment is also entirely subjective, thus ironically, proving my point. Also, I long awaited the story of how the twins were born and one was sent away so both were equally Royal. It showed his relationships. I was devastated with the ending, but thoroughly enjoyed the whole series. Because I can't do history as well as kiara nor Sageuk reviewing like HeadsNo2, I'll comment upon my forte. In fact, I was this close to forgoing this entire essay last night and just shitposting for this recap, like I did for Memories of Alhambra. After wrapping up the loose ends with both Queen Dowager and Sin Chi Soo, we skip forward a year (or so I presume due to the first dialogue exchange). Another girl suggested The king loves. I've seen a lot of fictional sageuks but they all stuck with their time period. . Then Officer Jang and him could have travelled far searching for the queen, end up in this town at the end and reunited. Ha Sun orders the ministers waiting outside to enter. window.fbAsyncInit = function() { In general I feel that The Crowned Clown was successful in effectively telling its shocking story, and that it did so in a gorgeous, impactful way. I'm interested to see what's up his sleeve in his forthcoming drama. Even more than the king/clown swap, I loved the smaller stories about Ha Suns relationships, both with his existing family and the new one he cultivated in the palace. Yes it depends on the perspective. I think @kiara tipped me off about it. ;-). Minister Shin says hes already rewarded them to offset the drop in morale, and he asks if she still thinks they need a valid cause for rebellion. He is important. We see a couple discussing what went wrong in . He reminds us that to be a man is to make mistakes, to laugh and fool around. I cannot believe that Lord Shin would have allowed himself to walk into a trap. He asks why Minister Lee did such a reckless thing, and Minister Lee apologizes for not keeping his promise never to leave him. Then, someone walks past an open gate alone Ha Sun. Our royal guard MooYoung is laughing in heaven at these horrible freshmen of hell. Minister Shin manages to growl, You lowly clown before Ha Sun yanks back his sword and slashes his throat. I'm probably in the minority for this opinion, but I thought it was a bold move for the show to have Lee Kyu kill the king in secret and become the "king" from the shadows. Like everyone else I feel the end was rushed and not thought out. I will remember his Eunuch Jo for a long time. fjs.parentNode.insertBefore(js, fjs); I too loved MLSHR, BUT I enjoyed it WHILE knowing and recognising its flaws. Prince Charles travels to Hong Kong to mark the end of British rule as the region became an administrative region of China. Dont base it on a doppelganger trope at all if youre going to do that! Who did take care of him all this time?" Im kind of glad I wasnt in the mood for this one, even for Jin-goo. They barely manage to suppress the assassins because..hasn't the King been shown to be excellent in archery and decent in using a sword? End of story. What? And their casts were first-rate. SO COOL.you just turned this drama into the preamble to "KINGDOM". window.fbAsyncInit = function() { First she lost the king, now she lost the clown. Without him, we wouldn't have a clown to be crowned. For those who are interested and have watched the whole drama, I wrote an essay on why I interpreted it as a tragedy: file:///Users/zozosparklesicloud.com/Downloads/The%20Crowned%20Clown%20(1).pdf. What is the limit between good and bad? Queen Dowager walks into a trap of her own and we understand the extent of Ha Suns game-playing as he truly understands how to navigate the vipers pit. I wished we had more time to get to know Yoon Park's character cuz I wanted to get attached/root for him. The goodbye scene to Eunuch Jo sniff so beautiful so sad. For me, the difference between Minister Lees decisions to end a life and Minister Shins or the queen dowagers is the intent. He only existed to play the King and become the King, at the expense of the King. Keith Bernstein/Netflix. He should have walked away, been protected by the officer, who would then accompany him as he returned to the village incognito to meet up with his sister and the queen. 4/4 I enjoyed this more than most of the sageuks I've seen. I thought I would have gotten caught up by now, but have held off until CROWNED CLOWN cleared the decks. Alas, it never materialized. But, instead of Ha Seon finding his sister and the ahjae and living happily ever after with them and So Woon, which I thought would be logical progression I don't know whether it was the difference in tone between it and CROWNED CLOWN, too many details, or what. That is what they wanted to tell. And all conflict and tension that should exist because of a Clown being a fake King on a throne and surrounded by people that want to kill him, goes away. She notes that this is her first time seeing the throne in person, and that Prince Yul is dead, but her blood will soon sit on the throne. Grrr. Lord giseong is a prince as i understood. With a satisfying conclusion and impressive cinematography throughout, this Korean drama makes for quite the impressive showing. Did it seem to anyone else that there were too many generals possibly coming to help from too many provinces? I didnt watch more than the first episode, but to kill off such a central character and then not resolve the conflict that the murder would have caused would have been an utterly frustrating watch for me as well. Stars Yeo Jin-gu Se-yeong Lee Kim Sang-kyung See production, box office & company info Watch on Prime Video The Clown : Yeo Jin Gu really acted him very well, showing the subtil evolution from a simple puppet to a real King. She cracks it and makes a wish, but when she opens her eyes, shes still alone. Eunuch Jo brings Ha Sun a scroll, and he reads the hanja himself as he announces that for the queen dowagers crimes of harming the queen, ordering Lord Yoos assassination, and leading the rebel forces, she is officially deposed and ordered to drink poison. The Clown cannot be King if there is no pre-existing King for him to pretend to be. In the drama the writers won't be able to keep the clown on the throne in the end or they'll have to deal with some angry Korean viewers. I just wish I could have commented more on CROWNED CLOWN, but the mental fatigue was real. Dont base it on a doppelganger trope at all if youre going to do that! I was expecting more repercussions and a deeper analysis into these morally grey characters, but their actions, especially the murder of Yi Heon, were brushed over in simple strokes, diminishing the weight and impact of these moments. Gapsu raised the two kids but how did that happen? I stopped watching at episode 10 since I had time-constraints and felt that the pace was a little slow or maybe just that I lacked time. Welcome to the world of sageuks. At the end of its fifth season, The Crown has taken viewers through much of the turmoil and strife that engulfed the royal family over the course of that . It's not that King Loves is terrible, but if you put MLDBC, MLSHR and KL on a scale, KL veers more towards the extreme that is occupied by MLSHR, instead of the MLDBC extreme. He was the king without the crown, the mastermind. All Rights Reserved. We got to see one measly flashback of Yi Heon and the Queen early in their marriage before he started going off the deep end. It wasn't surprising. Cant explain how the Queen died, but the whole scene implies that they are walking into eternity together. Though the family seems fine, their pet dog, Sadie, refuses to enter the home and continues barking frantically. JUMONG was simply momentous, with KINGDOM OF THE WINDS a worthy successor. I was perfectly okay with the ending. 3. He doesnt have long to ponder it though as Sin Chi Soo makes his move and, along with a handful of rebels, storms the palace in a bid to take him out of the loop once and for all. Let me say it again. It worked, because the scene in which he was hurt was really beautiful and I was on the edge of my chair and heartborken for So-Woon. After all if the really great episodes the ending was puzzling. As an audience, it was too easy to see these things in modern-day context instead of the context of the time period, where often, getting rid of someone, though a heinous choice, was often the only choice to protect the power of the throne (and thus the people). Peace has descended across the land and now the attention turns who the new heir to the throne may well be. or Dodi wants his father to meet his girlfriend Kelly, an . (~You know, its kind of paradoxical. Nor can I believe that Prince Jin-pyung would have been caught so flat-footed at the outdoor assembly. Was she too pure to have sex? I dont understand why the Queen couldnt have children?!?! Legacy? The basis of him getting on the throne was not exactly morally right anyway. Since NIF is set in fictional ancient China, I think it will be easier to differentiate HAECHI from it than from another sageuk. Because I think writing can be objectively bad, and no matter how many times I try and prove this, back it up with philosophical and canon evidence, you, and half this comment section, are always going to think something being bad is relative and subjective; only opinion and perspective. From shock and tension through to sadness and bittersweet goodbyes, this 75 minute episode encapsulated everything Ive loved about this show since I begun covering it 2 months ago. Mohamed Al-Fayed's expectations for his son Dodi are the cliff upon which Season 5 leaves its audience hanging. In the past, I've gotten myself in a swivet over dramas I was deeply invested in that later derailed or otherwise succumbed to out-of-character behavior, illogical happy endings, etc., etc. Firstly, shouldnt the King have been escorted out to safety in the event that people who were waiting to attack him would have? Yeahthere should be a flash back. Even jin pyong and dowager queen found it out in the last minute and the whole thing happened within 3, 4 months. No man can serve two masters. I never doubted that Ha Sun was capable of being a true king, but seeing him come into his own strength and take on his enemies himself, outsmart them, and return the nation to peace was extremely satisfying. Hope his next drama also does well. Auwe! No no. But, no. D Gray Man The 14th and Crown Clown Explained [CONFUSION CLEARED] 40,791 views Oct 18, 2019 1.1K Dislike Share Save Rash Plays 24.8K subscribers D Gray Man is amazing and I can't stress that. O/T but can I suggest that you maybe jump over to HAECHI and give it a try? His fears. Moo Young should have survived. Yi Heon and his contradictions with Ha Sun was truly the only reason why I was intrigued by TCC in the first place. And how exactly was she able to leave the palace and not return to her family home or hie herself to a nunnery as she had told Daebi that she would do? Why not let him save Ha Seon and then serve him for those two magic years? It's Moon lovers; Scarlet heart, Ryeo. But then they killed Moo Young for no reason and it made me so inexplicably angry that I cant seem to move on. Unnecessary death of the officer. It was quite unpredictable and almost each episode ended with a cliffhanger . Why would I want to watch something when there are no stakes for a plot that should have all the stakes? I'm still trying to catch up with HAECHI. Both Moo-young and Eunuch Jo advise Ha Sun to have him come to the capital to protect him, but Ha Sun says that people will be killed if Aisin Gurun attacks. KINGDOM, alas, also got short shrift from me because it was too much to juggle with CROWNED CLOWN. But i liked the way things happened in this drama as well. At the very least, he would have to be conflicted about it, because he was only obeying Haksans orders because they came from the king or were in the kings best interests. But then theres no indication he ever did learn the truth, and he kept serving Ha Seon as king, and the show then tried to pass off him dying to save Ha Seon (after Ha Seon has already abdicated the throne) as being the same thing as dying in the line of duty as a royal guard. Sorry if I might be nitpicking, but along with Jang's death, I even felt betrayed by So Woon's initial reaction to Ha Sun. Anyway, overall best Korean drama ever! I had to chuckle over his interpretation of Ha Sun's name ("summer fairy"). A great fit. The iconic Shawarma King has won the 'best in Scotland' title at the British Kebab Awards for the second time in a row, with the viral eatery on King Street describing their second win as . But that's not what Sicarius' point is. And then they walk off into the sunset andwhat? Lets break this down. Is he now AWOL? The Crowned Clown (Episode 16, Finale) Drama: The Crowned Clown (English title) / Man Who Become King (Literal) Orignal name: / Wangyi Doen Namja Director: Kim Hee-Won Writer: Kim Sun-Deok, Shin Ha-Eun Network: tvN Episodes: 16 Release Date: January 7 -- March 4, 2019 So now, @pakalanapikake, you see why this show and I were never meant to be. Perhaps because of unavoidable comparison, CROWNED CLOWN has come up a bit short. And i also think the doppelganger part is seemingly only the possible way to a mere clown to become a king. Other than that, I loved this drama and I'm sorry it over. I really liked this drama. I do not know of any other drama where it attracted the attention of so much of the wisest and knowledgeable beanies, SIMPLY because of its potential and not because it was actually a phenomenal drama. Jung Il-woo is giving a fine performance as Prince Lee Geum. After the Secretary stabbed Prince Jin, the Queen thanks Jin for his work thus far and instead vows to put another puppet in her stead on the throne to control. At the start of the story, we could see that he gave up, he was just in damage control task. The drama took some risks like killing off the king halfway, according to the actor who played haksan it was something they had in mind since the beginning. Even once a few people found out about Ha Seons identity, they for the most part just went on treating him like he was the real king all along, like Yi Heon didnt exist. Whatever you want to argue the reason for this was, and whatever you want to argue the reason for Ha Seon blithely forgiving him for this was, and whatever the argument posed for whether Haksan was good or bad, does not matter. I loved this drama as you said it wasn't perfect in every way but still it was great in many ways. They want to show his loyalty via his death ? I enjoyed the it. She promises not to get any closer if he just stays where he is this time. But its not a secret to the close people to them. I loved the show but we need to know How he survived. Episode 9, titled Couple 31, follows the consequences of the interview, as Charles and Diana finally give in to divorce. The Crown season 4 ended with Christmas at Balmoral. After a brief recap to the events of last week, we begin with Queen Dowager and the former Left State Minister plotting their next move. Thank you @lollypip for the recap! Monk Jung Saeng agrees that Minister Lee wouldnt want them to die for nothing. SO many eye rolling inconsistencies with the time period it took me right out of the whole story but I enjoyed half it at least thanks to the actors. See you over at HAECHI, which I am enjoying so far. So-woon asks what took him so long, and he says that he dreamed for so long that when he woke, a lot of time had passed. 1. What a load of crap! also the end was dreamlike, similar to the soft focus happy endings of Crash Landing on You but were these true endings or just wishful thinking? 4. Very sad but thoroughly enjoyed the series. Youre amazing cuz you even got the queen dowager to agree. I hate sounding petty, but, uh, what? sed diam nonummy nibh euismod tincidunt ut laoreet dolore magna. The Crown season 5 ends with Princess Diana preparing to take her sons Prince William and Prince Harry on a holiday to St. Tropez, organized by Al-Fayed. Add it to the list of things that are harder to believe than time travel and zombies Yoo In-Na's cuteness in Touch Your Heart. 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